There has been a lot of noise being made in the main stream media about a report that says the CIA used “illegal” and “unethical” methods to get information from individuals. The media has even called these individuals “innocent civilians”. The Study, as it is referred to, says that “dozens” of people were subjected to “torture” and that “no actionable intelligence” was taken from said “torture.”
The response from CIA Director John Brennan, being the career politician he is, basically said he wasn’t there when it happened, he supported the closing of the program, but hey- we did get some intelligence from it, including actionable intelligence that led to OBL’s death. He then attached over 100 pages of documents supporting that claim.
Well, if that don’t just take the cake. Let me lay some facts on you from the official documents, including those in the CIA’s official response.
– Those people came here, flew planes into our buildings, killed a whole bunch of people in the US, then later the UK and several other places around the world.
-Those people torture and behead every westerner that they can get their hands on for political gain.
-Those people picked the fight with us.
– The CIA used enhanced interrogation on a total of 5 people. Five of the worst scum this planet has ever seen and they were all in key positions within the enemy structure.
-Every other person was interrogated using mainstream, legal, and long standing methods and was approved after gaining legal opinion from CIA lawyers.
-One of those individuals was Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. He was the mastermind behind the 9/11 attacks. Not exactly somebody I would call an “innocent civilian.” According to the person who actually interrogated him, Mr. Jose Rodriguez (Director of the National Clandestine Service of the United States Central Intelligence Agency and CIA Deputy Director for Operations before that position was expanded to D/NCS in December 2004) KSM ONLY started to spill the beans once he was water boarded.
-There is no real threat of death while being water boarded. We even do it to our special forces operators so they know how to deal with it if they are captured. It works because your mind thinks its drowning.
-Sleep deprivation is a time honored traditional interrogation method. So they were exposed to heavy metal, rap, and other music or other media at loud levels in the process. I used to fall asleep listening to Metallica on my headphone, full blast. You’re telling me these people couldn’t?
-The CIA is one of the biggest law firms in the world. To say that they weren’t running things past at least one of them is a bold face lie.
Here’s an alternative theory as to why this report was released, especially timed now, for your viewing pleasure.
The report was published December 13, 2012, that’s two whole years ago. Last month, The Democrats lost the senate in spectacular fashion. Moreover, the signature piece of legislation, Obamacare, is currently beset by lawsuits, “software failures”, and a jackass who said they did it by the grace of the “Stupidity of the American Voter.” I should also mention that there are Congressional hearings taking place right this second about that exact piece of legislation. I have a hunch that it is going to be put on permanent public record the exact level of debauchery, or should I say douch-bagery, that particular piece of legislation is, and how evil the people who forced it upon us really are.
So, what to do? Well, If I’m a democrat, I would want to distract the public from listening to the hearings in order to minimize our losses. Enter the “scandal” of the old torture chambers. This was dealt with administratively years ago, and was even stopped & closed several years before the study was undertaken. But suddenly it’s relevant again because the Democrats called up their propaganda arm, the main stream media, and asked for a diversion. They “wag the dog”, control public interest and run with this story instead of the hearings. It also has the bonus of making Republicans “look bad” because they can once again “blame Bush.” Watch for that during the next Presidential election.
Look, should we torture? No. Was enhanced interrogation torture? Maybe. From what I’ve seen, read about, and researched, not really.
To me, the CIA did what they had to do and saved American lives in the process. The release of information in the study report is diversionary by Democrats, and is nothing more than an attempt to once again “Blame Bush” and inflame their base so the left hand doesn’t see what the right is doing. Furthermore, the release of this report puts more American lives in danger by inflaming the middle east, protest groups around the world, and makes terrorist groups seem more credible to the people they are trying to influence! It also hurts our intelligence gathering abilities by both tying the hands of interrogators and dissuades possible informants from helping us. All that this release has done is make things worse and probably extended the war.
So cry me a freaking river. I’m sorry it comes down to this, but I don’t give two hoots about some bad guy getting a bath and being made to listen to rock music. Hell, do it to them all and send the message- pick a fight with us and you will wish you hadn’t. That is the job of our intelligence and military departments.
If you want to worry about the mental health and treatment of somebody, look to the VA. Those are the people who actually served in our nations uniforms. Not living up to our promise to care for them, leaving many homeless, sick, broken mentally and physically and without medical treatment is equal to abandoning them in the best case, Torture in the worst.
Look to the people who lost loved ones on 9/11 or to anybody who lost somebody they care about in the war. Is their mental and physical care not more important that some evil men who want to kill us?
Stop making excuses! Stop treating America and Americans like WE are the enemy. Stop with this America hating nonsense!
And that’s my two cents!
Just in case you wondered, here are the actual reports. Read them for yourself, if you’ve got a couple days to spare.
SSI Study: Warning- 525 page PDF’s aren’t always easy on system resources
CIA Response: 136 pages